• defining your area of experience


    i was mocking up a simple vista sidebar gadget to show a colleague of what a gadget is and he complained that it was "too wide" -- after i inquired further, he called me over to show me.  you see in vista, when you have Aero (aka "glass" effects) enabled, the sidebar is really seamless into the desktop (apart from a shadow on the right).  when you hover over the sidebar, it 'defines' itself and makes itself a little more visible...thus a small border/line appears.  see below:

    my colleage said "see, it's wider than the sidebar!"  ah, now i understood.  you see he had defined the sidebar as only that space to where the line goes (even if the line isn't visible).  we argued a bit about the concept of space and definition, but to him, my gadget broke "the rules" in the width.  what is interesting is that without scrolling over it, you never know the defined edges of the sidebar and thus in normal viewing, my gadget looks fine.

    that is, until you add a bunch of others...all of which have maximum docked widths no larger than the sidebar border (note: a gadget can be undocked and placed anywhere on the desktop).  interesting, i thought.  it appears that we've put ourselves in this situation.  so where does the sidebar start/stop.  arguably, you could say "it's a sidebar" so it is defining itself on the side.  in my opinion, sidebar isn't a good name, for that reason specifically.  to me, it's a dock -- a "snap to" location for the gadgets.

    oh well, maybe the other gadget designers can break free of 140 pixel widths and liberate in a docked mode!

    Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:40 PM

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  • Matt B said:
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    # re: defining your area of experience


    I'm by no means a Mac backer, but I do believe that Apple's implementation (in OSX) of ga/wi/dgets is far superior over Vista's, in that there is a hotkey for instantly accessing the ga/wi/dgets. The first thing I did when I started playing around with gadgets was to treat them as widgets in that I put the items right on my desktop and got rid of the conception of the "sidebar." Now, if there was only a hotkey to see them at once...

    11/6/2006 10:05 AM
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    # re: defining your area of experience


    Matt B, the hotkey you're looking for is Windows Key + Space, which shows the Sidebar. (I was hoping that Windows Key + D to show the Desktop would work as well, but it treats the Sidebar as another window and hides it, even for gadgets on the desktop.)

    Regarding the sidebar size, I do like it having a definite size (both as a user and a developer)... there are gadgets that shrink down when you dock them, which I'd say is the proper behavior for a gadget (the weather gadget is a good example of this). There are going to be things that don't work well in 140px, but for most gadgets, I think people should be thinking in terms of small and getting it to fit. Without that you'll end up with web page sized gadgets before too long, imho.

    Then again, there's the question of picking some arbitrary pixel value like 140 for the width, when one of the big selling points of Vista was a resolution-independent interface that could scale to hundreds of DPI for the latest and greatest monitors... did the Sidebar take this into account at all I wonder? There should be a set width, but it shouldn't be hardcoded... I hope there's a decent way to determine that at run time.

    11/6/2006 2:54 PM

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