integrating data with silverlight and media

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integrating data with silverlight and media

posted @ Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:18 PM | 12 Comments

a video screencast that jesse and i collaborated on was just posted. in the screencast jesse demonstrates the code we did to demonstrate a concept he calls "hypervideo" which is basically leveraging media metadata, and simulating retrieving related data information to display in the experience.

this concept is very similar to the experience at HSN.tv of showing "related products" using the metadata being streamed in their experience. i hope you find it useful and if you have any questions, please let me know!

again, my goal is to try to help provide you with relevant information about microsoft web platform technologies like silverlight and enabling scenarios. if you have a good idea (and aren't exactly sure how to go about it), send it my way as i'd love to help you and the broader community learn how to do it.

are these fully complete samples? probably not. they are intended to help you think and work through a portion of potentially your use of these technologies. if they suck, let me know.

Comments

Bryan

10/24/2007 10:59 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

good job, it's helpful.
John

10/24/2007 11:45 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

Yes its a great idea and takes the basic "lets just put some video on the web" to a new level. I think it shows what SL is really about, UX.
I am motivated to make sure my next videos include this sort of functionality.
Edward J. Stembler

10/25/2007 12:20 AM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

Personally I would be more interested in a Silverlight 1.1 implementation using C# or IronPython. I'm not a big fan of JavaScript.
Jesse Liberty

10/25/2007 5:52 AM | # Javascript vs C#

Edward,

I don't want in any way to put you on the defensive, but I'm very interested in your comment because the difference in the project using C# vs. Javascript would be almost trivial (I bet you could do the translation using SL 1.1 in 2 hours).

I agree that 1.1 will be great, that using managed code will be a big advantage, and that when we release the promised controls building applications will be much easier, but I'm getting a lot of pushback from MANY users that the Javascript version is "unusable" and that intrigues me because we're seeing a lot of very powerful applications being built in 1.0.

It is an interesting phenomenon; may have to do with where on the early adopter path we each want to be.

In any case, please don't read this as a challenge; more as an opening for conversation.

Thanks.

-Jesse Liberty
(Silverlight Geek)
Troy

10/25/2007 3:22 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

If you think this is good, look at viddler.com, which enables users to add point-in-time comments (text and video) and tags. This is just like comments like this one on blog posts, except they are associated with points in the video. I am working on a similar application of the technology, and hope to integrate the comments with video through markers, and maybe even link them into a SharePoint BDC, making them searchable, and the points-in-time linkable.
vladimir

10/25/2007 10:19 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

Troy said: If you think this is good, look at viddler.com, which enables users to add point-in-time comments (text and video) and tags…

Yep, very nice and obvious idea. Is there any way we can create something like this for the silver light media without using encoder and than store this data separately from the media in the database and recreate it in the runtime?

Tim and Jesse thank you very much for what you’re doing. samples are great (though c# would be better than javascript).
timheuer

10/26/2007 1:41 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

vladimir: ooh, sounds like a challenge...note to self: start working on vladimir's idea
vladimir

11/2/2007 9:11 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

thanks tim. just found nice example that shows how to dynamically create timeline markers. thanks Keydet http://devkeydet.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!1F72DA7294089597!452.entry
radha krishna

2/27/2008 7:01 AM | # how to convert video files to silverlght supported format

i am developing a silverlight media player. how to convert video files to silverlght supported format
timheuer

2/27/2008 8:39 AM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

radha: use expression encoder http://microsoft.com/expression
radha krishna

2/27/2008 9:56 PM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

we are not supposed to use expression encoder. We have to convert video files to silverlight supported format using c# code.
timheuer

2/28/2008 8:27 AM | # re: integrating data with silverlight and media

radha: well that seems odd that you aren't supposed to use the tool that can do it for you! well, if you can only do it in code (again, which seems odd) you'll have to create a WMV file that conforms to the VC-1 specifications. Again Expression Encoder and Windows Media Encoder tools do this for you and can be executed from the command line.