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In my previous post on moving to free HDTV, I had talked about my desire to change our home television “stuff” in an effort to remove basically a bill that we weren’t taking advantage of at all.  Part of the irony in this whole exploration was that by the time I figured out a solution, the whole digital-TV-signal-broadcast-rule-thing was going to happen.  Luckily, I received some good advice and product suggestions.

If you read the previous post you’ll notice that I acquired a Philips MANT940 antenna from Walmart.  $38 investment not bad.  I crawled up into my attic space and put it in a non-optimized location…and it worked anyway.  I tested it on the only HD tuner I had in the house at the time, my WinTV 950 adapter for my eyeTV software on my Mac.  It worked great.

HD HomeRun Product ImageMy problem was still that my TiVo units were going to be a loss and I didn’t want to fiddle with IR blasting anyway.  Then someone recommend I take a look at the HD HomeRun unit from SiliconDust.  I got a few emails from people who had it.  I had some Amazon credit and they had a good price, so I went for it.  I figured if it sucked, just return it.  The concept of the HD HomeRun is that it is a digital tuner with two inputs and delivers the signal over your LAN.  This was the most intriguing to me.  I had a lot of suggestions of Media Center PC.  I love Media Center PC, but didn’t like the thought of having a ‘computer’ in my living room or basement near a TV.  It doesn’t feel right (and I didn’t have coax wired to where my Media Center box was anyway).  But HomeRun would allow me to deliver it over the LAN, so my existing box could pick it up as a tuner.

The HD HomeRun arrived.  I opened it and plugged it in.  One cable to the network - not gigabit :-( - and the other was the new antenna I acquired.  I went to my Media Center PC and ran the HD HomeRun setup software provided.  It scanned for a tuner and didn’t find one.  Crap!  I thought I was going to be screwed.  I did some searching and noticed that I wasn’t alone with the "Discovery Error 4001” message I was receiving.  It seemed like an incredibly known issue, which is weird why they are shipping units with the issue.  I logged a support ticket with my device ID (required) and they sent me a little executable to run.  I ran it and it suddenly was discovered in the scan.  Weird.  No explanation of what the issue was.  I didn’t necessarily care, and moved on.

The HD HomeRun config is pretty intuitive and you select the tuner input, the type (antenna) and then what type of application will be accessing it (Media Center).  It scans, finds the channels and done.  It comes with guide software as well, but seems a little pointless as Media Center has all that built in as well.

The Media Center found the unit as a tuner and went through the normal process.  Quick and painless.  A walk down to the basement to the XBOX 360 and turned on to watch free HDTV via my new HD HomeRun.  Awesome.  Thanks for the recommendation for that unit!

The second thing I wanted to do was use my Mac and eyeTV on the same unit.  Didn’t work.  I should clarify that I probably had a bad assumption.  It found and configured the HomeRun as the tuner, but I couldn’t watch any stations as long as another machine was using the tuner.  Suck, but I understand I suppose.

I’m very pleased so far with the HD HomeRun solution and get to play around with Media Center now.

Question: Media Center gurus, how can I search for a program to record a series?  I could only find the ability to record a series if I find it in the guide.  I’m looking for the TiVo like functionality of searching for programs by title.

I’m going to hook up another Media Center Extender in my living room to see how that works out.  I see some MCE’s come with DVD players so that would be cool and I might try that. 

The HD HomeRun also has a QAM tuner as well.  The cable companies are required by law to send the digital signals of local broadcast channels over QAM without a customer paying for equipment.  I look forward to trying this feature.  The cable companies aren’t required to send the HD signal though, so you may not get the HD quality.

If you already have a Media Center PC (Vista) and an XBOX, I’d recommend looking at the HD HomeRun if you are looking to rid yourself of cable as I am and only care about over-the-air HD channels.  It’s been fun to investigate and learn. 

Dear Cox, please cancel.  Thanks.


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6/15/2009 1:58 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Tim, I've been following your progress (where you are now is what I do), but I haven't cancelled Cox yet because of one thing...sports. If only I wasn't such a huge ASU/Suns/Pro Cycling/etc. fan! For example, I'm following the College World Series very closely, as usual, right now (Go Devils!) and it's only on ESPN. Next month, all of that Tour de France sweet goodness will be all over Vs. channel every day for 22 days or so. Then, don't even get me started on college football in the fall (although SOME of that is broadcast over the air, much of what I care about is on Fox Sports and other cable channels). I'm really stuck, and want to cancel my cable very badly. I rent two HD DVRs from them, too, which increases my bill substantially. If I just didn't love my sports so much.
6/15/2009 2:12 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
I'm getting HD via clear QAM (over Comcast) for OTA channels over here... only thing I miss is HBO. I was going to go the antenna route but the hill prevented that.

HD HomeRun looks pretty sweet... does it show up as an actual tuner in Media Center? If it does that would kick ass for me, as my Media Center has been recently crippled by Comcast stopping their analog signals over cable. (Blows my mind they spent years advertising that you wouldn't be affected if you were on cable, and right when the feds switch off analog OTA, Comcast does the same with their cable. One more reason not to be their customer.) Need to get a digital tuner for my PC, but out of slots on the motherboard... was looking at building a new machine, but this may do the trick and get my Media Center juiced up with HD.
6/15/2009 2:19 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Bill -- yes, if you are a sports nut, OTA HD doesn't really give you anything...in fact, you'll lose your precious ESPN. :-) I'm not a sports nut and didn't really care. I'm also investigating PlayOn for my XBOX and it has some folks that have created plugins for other stations...some are cable. I believe they are dependent upon having a public consumable feed of video to show though.

Jason -- yes it shows up just like a tuner...it's very cool! No need for a tuner/coax at the box! I suppose WiFi would work too, but can guess it wouldn't be optimal. The investment so far is worth it and I found Amazon had the best price when I shopped for it (http://bit.ly/uQdsv).
6/15/2009 2:33 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Under $150... I'm sold.

I wouldn't try it over WiFi myself. I don't use WiFi anymore anyway except for the occasional netbook on the couch thing.

I'm getting ESPN, Discovery, and a bunch of other channels in clear QAM over Comcast, and all I'm paying for is broadband Internet. If you're not getting certain channels OTA, you may be getting it over the cable already if you have Internet from them. (From what I've heard, they have to send a TV signal over the line in order to transmit data whether you subscribe to a cable plan or not.)
6/15/2009 3:34 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Tim,

I use PlayOn today. Works very well actually, and is my goto solution for watching Hulu in the theater (via the Xbox 360); something I do quite often, actually. It has some quirks, but is a great solution overall. I have ESPN plug-ins, etc., but they don't "broadcast" live sports (or even replays of sports the next day, which I could live with), but only little two-minute vignettes about sports coverage and sports news...not what I really need or want. If there was a way to ala carte coverage over the internet through something like PlayOn, I would be golden. Even if it were a type of pay per view ($2 to watch this football game, for example, or $60 to watch the whole season of college football), I would be happy as a clam...but alas, nothing like this exists....yet. Any VCs out there want to fund something? I've got ideas, baby! In actuality, I believe the problem lies in the very large sums of money that the networks (inlcuding cable only networks) have thrown at sports in the last couple of decades...someone has "exclusive" rights to everything in sports...and I don't see that changing any time soon. A massive popular shift has to happen, so I commend you for doing your part. Maybe someday each network will have other way's to distribute their content other than cable/satellite. Here's hoping it's sooner rather than later.
6/15/2009 5:38 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
I also have an HD HomeRun. There are two tuners, so if you have a source hooked up to each (coax) input, you can watch two different channels from two different systems. You can mix as well, one source OTA HD and the other QAM.

Interesting thing with QAM, when I started using the HD HomeRun it picked up about 25 blank QAM channels. Occasionally something would be on one of these channels, and when it was over went blank. Turns out this was the Comcast On Demand / PPV - when someone started a movie in the neighborhood, their box would just switch them over to the hidden QAM channel, which wasn't encrypted. It was like spying on a neighbor, only you don't know which neighbor you're spying on.

They finally started encrypting QAM a few months ago, so this no longer works in my area.
6/15/2009 8:11 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Question: Media Center gurus, how can I search for a program to record a series? I could only find the ability to record a series if I find it in the guide. I’m looking for the TiVo like functionality of searching for programs by title.

Start at the TV + Movies Strip.
Select the Search tile (right-most item).
Select Title.
Type (or triple tap) the TV show title. The search results will narrow as you type.
Select the show you wish to record in the search results. This will take you to a page of episodes.
Select one of the episodes to view the details.
Select the Record Series button.
6/15/2009 9:19 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Thanks Charlie :-) -- Guess I need to scroll a bit more :-)
6/15/2009 11:23 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
I do agree that the search function is not in the most intuitive place. I would have expected it in the guide, just as you did, but I guess MS didn't find the right place for it there.
6/16/2009 1:24 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
To add a recording, I usually do:

Open TV -> Recorded TV
Select Add Recording -> Search -> Title

But other methods work as well
6/16/2009 8:02 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Its funny to see to see others undergoing the same projects as myself. I plan to do a complete write up of my own setup when i get it all finished. I have a couple of media center PCs i have put together, working on some final touches now.

I chose to go with dedicated tv tuner cards like Avermedia Duet ($60 USD). It does ATSC and Clear QAM and offers 2 tuners, but each TV now has 2 tuners. With SD Homerun, isnt there just 2 tuners to share amoungest the house? What if you want to record 2 shows and watch something else up stairs? This might not happen much in my house i suppose.
6/16/2009 8:09 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
So, this worked well since you already had an xbox. I've just got a XP box in the basement and a TiVo that will stream content from that. If I drop Comcast & Tivo, the ability to stream from the TiVo will be lost. So, will I be stuck with buying an xbox or is there a cheaper MCE option that anyone would recommend. TIA. Mark
Note: I'm assuming an xbox 360 is pricey, but looking seems the prices vary widely ($130 (refurb) - $350 "elite"). Is is just the HD capacity or...? I could deal with dropping $130 for an xbox as a MCE.
6/16/2009 8:45 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Dan -- you are right, I'm sharing 2 tuners for the house. But with Media Center, I really only need the two if I have extenders where I need them to be. And we don't watch that much TV that would cause me to be recording 2 and watching a third...that's kind of the motivation that sparked this...not enough TV watching anymore.

Mark -- yes, I had an XBOX. You can get any other Media Center Extender as well. XBOX I love because it serves as a DVD player, game console and MCE. You can get the Arcade version (cheapest XBOX360) for $199 I think. I'd recommend getting one with a hard drive though as once you have one you'll be wanting to use it more anyway -- did somebody say Rockband?
6/16/2009 11:43 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Reading up on this... found the linksys DMA2200 as an inexpensive & quiet MCE. Also, according to www.pcworld.com/.../...o_windows_media_center.html Windows7 will come w/ MC baked in. So, Tim, ready to put Windows7 on your MC box? :) I'd love to hear how it goes.
6/16/2009 12:32 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Mark -- Yes I'm using Win7 as well.
6/19/2009 8:16 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Tim... It's a good thing you have an HD HomeRun because Windows7 doesn't have the drivers to support recording from Hauppaugge PVR-1800 and I believe that's true for all Hauppaugge products.
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6/22/2009 9:46 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Your local cable provider is required to relay the broadcast signals through the wire unmodified, except for recompressing (i.e. MPEG2->MPEG4 if that's what their head end supports). You will get the "over-the-air digital," which usually means HD for the channels providing it. Note that they don't have to keep the channel numbers the same so you might find local channel 4.1 on QAM 118.37. The makers of HDHomeRun have a web page (http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us) that lets you find the QAM to "normal" channel mapping you will want.
6/29/2009 6:11 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
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7/1/2009 10:45 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
You haven't mentioned the best feature of the HD HomeRun, since it hooks up to your network and WiFi you can watch live TV from "anywhere". I often use my laptop to watch while sitting in the bathroom :).
Also, I have hooked up my Media Center equipped laptop to the Recorded TV folder of the Vista desktop "server" I use as my main recorder using this tip from The Green Button website: thegreenbutton.com/.../158079.aspx
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9/29/2010 5:55 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
I have moved away from cable and saved the roughly $65 per month. Goodbye cable and unfortunately goodbye sports channels. But hooking up my slow computer to something to help get more from my set up is interesting.
11/30/2010 2:55 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
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12/18/2010 8:09 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Sounds great. Really looking forward to free HDTV. I find that HD really has an impact on my computer causing it to run really slow. I've read that you can improve the speed of your pc through simple maintenance.
2/21/2011 3:42 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
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4/19/2011 7:29 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
Do you know any places where I can get such a cheap antenna myself? I can't find any. :/
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4/19/2011 11:35 PM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
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4/24/2011 12:47 AM | # re: My move to free HDTV – Part 2: HD HomeRun to the rescue
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