BUILD with Windows 8

Showing and releasing Windows 8 has nothing to do reliability of Windows 7. Windows 7 is awesome OS and I am sure Windows 8 will be reliable with more coolness! :)

Tim, the greater question is - what is happening with .NET and Silverlight in general if Microsoft is running about claiming that HTML 5 and Javascript is the new development platform?!!! What is going on here? Everyday we see more and more open source crap being added to bloat up Visual Studio. Where is ASP.NET and what is the future of Microsoft's own products like .NET, Silverlight and ASP.NET?!!

Well sadly, Silverlight was not chosen as the cross-platform API instead it was chosen HTML + Java Script.

What a disappointment.

Does this mean SL is going to be depreciated?

:(

Tim, please smack whoever is in charge of developer communications at MS for us. Whenever a huge announcement like this is made, there should be clear messages to developers as to whether MS technology X is going to be viable or not. Right now there are countless pissed off developers assuming the worst: that HTML+JS is going to be the only way to make a first class experience for the new UI and/or Windows 8 on ARM. SL/WPF/.NET might not even be ported to ARM for all we know.

There is no need to leave things in this kind of state:
channel9.msdn.com/posts/A-quick-look-at-Windows-8

Tim we are very concerned about what Microsoft is doing. HTML 5 and Javascript are not true development technologies and lack basically everything that .NET and Silverlight provide for developing rich, powerful and meaningful applications... apps that do things other than weather and twitter feeds.

Why is Microsoft evidently abandoning its own technologies that millions of its own developers have been using for over a decade now? As of today, there is no unique advantage for developing for Windows 8 platform vs. Andriod or iPhone/iPad.

Lots of drama queens on here and channel9. The video clearly states that MS is offering developers a NEW option for app development using HTML5 & JS. If you are concerned or are making assumptions that sounds like a YOU problem.

Developers are microsoft strenght.
If she lose them , then the company will be lost a decade. Ms is not doing well teasing developers. WE ALL want to use real code to write apps. We are tired of this javascript hype over and over. MS is chasing Google and Apple instead of go ahead herself.
Choose Silverlight as default development platform in Windows 8

Microsoft Developer Relations - please tell us that HTML5/JS is not the only option for development against the new app model.

Also, please tell us that WPF didn't just go from the future of UI development to a second-rate way of developing legacy LOB apps.

@E - if you dont have anything but drama to add to this discussion, YOU are the drama queen. real developers have a legitimate concern here.

love how he only respond to the pointless comment that was already answered by a previous commenter. Either way from what I seen this OS looks like something that is geared towards the iPads and Tablets that are out there not something for a desktop PC

I just want xaml with easy animation like css

xaml + c# !

if there is something i hate on xaml is, its animation, too complicated

Tim, what happened to all the things you and John Papa convinced to developers few months ago regarding Silverlight? Please read this article:

news.cnet.com/.../microsoft-speak-up-about-silv...

Silverlight and .NET are first class citizens and should be talked about on DAY 1 for an important thing such as a new version of Windows. Not be left for few months later... Javascript isnt even yuor product. Didnt you guys learn amnything from the Muglia fiasco!

For two years now I have been consistently amazed at the anxiety attacks Silverlight developers suffer from.

Maybe it's a vocal minority who read Mary Jo Foley and don't think for themselves.

@Chris: For 2 years now I have been consistently amazed by the repeated mis-steps by Microsoft regarding Silverlight and .NET in general. May be they need to go back to soul searching and be the Microsoft they were prior to these past few years were VPs publicly accept defeat to Apple. Non-sense cloud has hung over Microsoft. No faith in their own products anymore.

I still find it astonishing how badly wrong Microsoft get this from time to time. This situation was so totally and utterly avoidable. It seems evident that All Thing Digital was the stake in the ground for the public unveiling of the immersive UI for Windows 8. What is clear is that messaging around it was not rounded out properly in time.

This whole strategy of "keeping our powder dry" and drip-feeding information and leaving ambigous more-to-come statements is becoming seriously counter-productive. Who wants to bet that Microsoft execs will come under serious pressure to respond to this uncertainty that someone will be trotted out to make some statement that "Silverlight/.NET are still very much core... blah... blah.. blah.... more at Build". It's getting embarrasing, folks. We've seen this now with Windows 8, WP7 "Mango", Silverlight, XBOX TV/Apps. Let's face, the plans are written up on the walls in Redmond. Either share all of it or none of it.

Positive comment Tim (finally :P)

USAToday is a prime example, how apps must be build for windows, using silverlight ! Even my desktop is NOT touch device ! perhaps microsoft should install it on every pc
I must know how they build it ! (any clue Tim ?)
The only thing i miss is pin to task bar like those ie9 webs...

Flickr is a sample how bad is silverlight install experience, until today I can not install it, yes i know its for touch device, but USAToday too is for touch device too and works ! It's still error during that native extension install with HRESULT bla2

Hope this BUILD can make us to create apps like USAToday's quality within hours and with SILVERLIGHT not that html5+javascript

@Jack: What are you saying man?! Have you even used Windows 7?!

@Jack - Please stay off the drugs, lol.

@Scott the luddite: In fairness, Windows 7 was released to manufacturing in July 2009. That's nearly 2 years ago. Most commentators are suggesting that Microsoft will finish Windows 8 around the summer of next year. That'll make it approximately 3 years between releases.

With regard to the "good old days", I think you may have forgotten Windows 98 and Windows ME. The only reason XP was around for so long is that Vista had a very troubled development process and XP SP2 should be viewed as something of an interim release.

Tim,
Microsoft does need to address the fears of silverlight developers.
Every day we hear of something negative, today was windows skype with html5
I am not against html5 however it needs to be supported by a plug in like silverlight. Microsoft needs to address these concerns so that silverlight developers can grow. Where is enterprise data development heading? Silverlight html 5 THese are answers that need to come out before the build conference!! Microsoft needs to do a better job at informing its developers.

Tim, what team are you part of now after all the changes at Microsoft? I hope you, John and Jesse continue the good work with XAML and Silverlight technologies! All the best! :)

Microsoft doing it right...feliz aniversario

@Gerhardt: Silverlight has achieved great success in its short lifespan. It is far superior technology than Flash, Java or HTML 5. The problem was not Silverlight but Microsoft itself that lacked clear vision and faith in its own products. This is a failure for Microsoft and there is nothing wrong with Silverlight.

Will try to join it. Highly interested in Windows 8. Thanks dude

Tim, no posts for over 2 months now. Are you keeping well? What's new?

nice stuff .! i agree with this article :)