i'm curious how soon the apple attorneys might prepare a cease-and-desist on the naming of both of these controls, but that's for them to figure our. I'm more interested in getting my hands on them and playing around. you can read their press release here on where to get them. it's very exciting to see so many controls popping up. i hope that when silverlight 2.0 releases that these will all be ready for primtetime as well!